LESLIE
Well I think it’s shocking. Did you see those figures in the Telegraph last week?
HILARY
What figures were those?
LESLIE
They were looking at what people paid towards welfare and pensions in the last Tax Year. Someone earning £15,000 would have paid over £700.
HILARY
That’s a lot of money. No wonder the Government is trying to find ways to cut down the welfare bill.
LESLIE
Oh that’s nothing. Someone with £50,000 a year would have paid over £5000. That’s seven times as much!
HILARY
I don’t think that’s relatively bad – after all the £50,000 earner is making so much money it’s peanuts to them.
LESLIE
Sometimes I despair of you Hilary. Leaving aside the fact that everyone’s circumstances are different it’s really foolish to confiscate so much of the earnings of successful people. We’re rapidly heading for a mediocre society of the lowest common denominator. This country really achieved prosperity by allowing the successful to get the rewards of their work. That’s only justice.
HILARY
So you believe in the meritocracy?
LESLIE
What do you mean?
HILARY
It means quite simply that you believe that the world should be run by the “fortunate” people – who might, if they have the mind to, chuck a few pennies at the less fortunate.
LESLIE
It’s not a question of being fortunate; it’s a question of working hard to be successful.
HILARY
Tripe! One thing all the experts agree on is that the intelligence level is the most reliable measure of future success. And that, my dear Leslie, is inherited. Sheer chance who your parents are!
LESLIE
Just as a matter of fact only about 50% of IQ comes from parents.
HILARY
Let’s not quibble about the exact figure – but the other 50% comes from upbringing. And that’s chance too.
LESLIE
How come?
HILARY
Well we know that upbringing in a successful educated household is a huge advantage. The children get a big vocabulary. They come into contact with books right there in the home. The parents care about homework being properly done. And the children are likely to be encouraged all the way. Children in poor families are more likely to be reprimanded than encouraged. That’s the problem: well off parents tend to produce successful children, parents who happen to be poor and relatively uneducated don’t. So history repeats itself.
LESLIE
Come on. Hilary. There’s an excellent free education system in this country – and they all work to the National Curriculum. Everyone has a chance to get to the top.
HILARY
You do live in fairy land, don’t you? I’ll leave aside private education – just remembering that it’s often paid for by family money. The fact is that the quality of a state school is hugely variable. If you want a good school you’d better live in a good area. But if you’re stuck in a poor area you’ll get a sink school. Parents, I’m told, run themselves ragged to get their children into a good school. And, believe me, middle class parents can run faster.
LESLIE
So what you’re saying is that well off and successful people depend on the good fortune of good genes and good parents. There’s no dam’ merit in it.
HILARY
That’s certainly true. There are plenty of people who work hard and long hours in boring jobs to make ends meet. And plenty of others who tread a gilded path. And the difference is brought about by no more than chance. Of course I accept that you can’t put everyone on identical wages – but I shed no tears when the fortunate are required to contribute really quite large sums in taxation in acknowledgement of their good luck.
LESLIE
I’d like to stay and explain to you what damage your ideas would do to our society. Fact is, I’ve got my mid-week round of golf in an hour. It’s with Jem Wilcox, of Personnel. Remember, I promised to have a word with him about your boy. I’m sure he’ll find him a job. He owes me a favour
HILARY
Oh..er… thanks.
EXEUNT
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